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Whats next with Galcier. [message #17] Sun, 22 April 2007 10:40 Go to next message
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With the Anti-Glacier bill failing to reach the house floor and dying.

What’s the next step? Matt Bergman breathed the words “compromise” and “what if we negotiated”. He was asked to leave the Preserve our Islands Board of directors, for having a conflicted view.

Should there be talks with Glacier on the actual use and redemption of the land that makes up the Maury Island Quarry?
Re: Whats next with Galcier. [message #18 is a reply to message #17 ] Mon, 23 April 2007 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes...it's long overdue to use the "n" word (negotiate) and the "p" word re Glacier. That is "p" for planning so there may still be some Islander wiggle room.

How about Glacier having to post a gargantuan performance bond so that if they poison our aquifer(s)the money is there for water restoration/substitution before litigation? (it makes financial sense for them and gives us some practical protection)

Or in a similar vein, Glacier posts $$$ for land/shoreline reclamation and after they've quarried some reduced percentage of their original goal they would sell to a local housing authority the property to build an "Arcosanti" type,open-clustered,low-income,green, senior housing project. Hell, have 'em throw in a good drilled well and storage, a modern green septic system, and solar power---the whole thing. Add a rec center and rehab/clinic? Conference/retreat/edu-environmental center? Anything is "on the table". For example, there are all sorts of outside funds so we could "buy" a reduction from Glacier in total volume removed and the hours and days of operation.

Anybody for an electric passenger-only ferry from Glacier's planned ritzy wharf to Colman Dock? Less driving across Maury, better people mix in a new, diverse community and less dependence on a single "uptown" for "community". After all, Dockton, Ellisport, and other "old" towns could spawn new small neighborhoods instead of McMansions vs high-density lifestyle choices.

So let's hear some post-Glacier planning...our future is hurtling towards us faster and faster...

What other creative and positive plans for the future can we come up with? We've got to reframe this "defeat" as setting the stage for a new win-win paradigm or we'll all be the poorer for it.

After all, after the gravel mine, we'll all still have our crown jewel, Vashon-Maury Island.


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Re: Whats next with Galcier. [message #27 is a reply to message #18 ] Mon, 27 August 2007 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow. What an appropriately optimistic response, Robert. And thanks for it.

Though I myself have not followed the Glacier issue as much as I c/should've, I must admit I've had a bit of a defeatist attitude about the current/future state of the gravel pits, as I'm used to hearing them called...

Development - as does 'poop' - happens. To look at the two sides of the playing field as competitors is to ignore the fact that by recognizing Glacier will get its way, we can still hold them accountable for 'penance' (of a civic sort), <i>and we can actually accomplish more in less time</i>, than by simply warring the issue out over and over again in the legal system.

Personally I love the idea of Dockton Park returning to the cultural and community hub it once was. Whatever can make initiatives like that happen, while impacting the environment in responsible and sustainable ways, I'm all for 'em!

-Kris

[Updated on: Mon, 27 August 2007 10:30]

Re: Whats next with Galcier. [message #47 is a reply to message #27 ] Mon, 18 February 2008 13:50 Go to previous message
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Did any one see the article in the Seattle Times:
Barge sand and gravel: protect the environment, aid transportation written by Mark Leatham vice president and general manager of Glacier Northwest's Washington division.
Here is the article Link
http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.co m/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?s lug=maury12&date=20080212&query= vashon

Interesting Angle, but he doesn't talk about our aquifer.

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